Lt. General William Boykin caused a firestorm in 2003 after NBC News disclosed remarks he made about Islam and politics. Now the general is retired and in a new book he scolds NBC News and recalls the phone interview with producer Aram Roston.
I don't know how many people remember the Boykin controversy?
It is edited by NBC News Senior Investigative Producer Jim Popkin. This quotation taken from your own page explains just about everything. Things are "edited out", and "edited in", whichever serves the purpose of NBC the best. Self explanatory.
I remember the controversy well, Mr Roston. I applaud you and NBC for airing the story. General Boykin, as a leader of men and women of varied faiths stationed in various countries defending the liberty of all Americans, is entitled to his opinion but when he has the audacity to to speak publicly about his beliefs he is asking to have his statements brought into question. Those who may choose the military life as a means of offering support to their country should be aware of the public diatribes of which their leaders espouse. General Boykin has served this nation and protected the liberties of all Americans and for that I am thankful. But, when he takes his beliefs into the public spectrum, we are entitled to question those beliefs, even if he feels them unwarranted. I think that you did the public a great service by bringing General Boykins violations of Pentagon policies to light. Keep up the great work @ NBC and Thanks!
NBC should have just opened their office windows to "air" this story. It stinks. Are you saying that the general is entitled to beliefs and liberties only in private? Are you saying that he's entitled only to beliefs and liberties which don't conflict with who? The Pentagon? Various men and women on station? You, personally? Do you mean "the liberty of all Americans except General Boykin"? And this "audacity to speak publicly" you mention. Tell me a little more about it. You mention "Those who... CHOOSE the military life..." What about draftees? And "be aware of the public diatribes of which their leaders espouse" WHAT ON EARTH DOES THAT MEAN? To be in lock-step or goose-step with politicians??? God save us when NBC is enforcing "Pentagon policies" against public speakers and people with beliefs. One final question: Which enumerated Constitutional entitlement are you quoting in order to question or challenge another person's beliefs or speech???
I am very weary of the apples and oranges comparisons to one anothers belief systems. Instead of explaining the differences and truly being an educating media, media confuses the issues. Subjective systems of truth when compared objective systems in terms of one being a lie is misleading. In this case it further leads to one being attacked as being ignorant while the ignorant system is involved in defending all. General Boykin isn't as wrong as is suggested and the critics conversely are not as right as they suggest or want others to believe they are.
I do not know which person to believe. However, General Boykin put his life where his mouth was.
This country is NOT free due to the news media - it is free due to our military past and present. General Boykin may not have remembered your conversation in it's entirety, but I feel pretty sure he remembered it correctly on the more important issues. For him to even speak with you was a mistake on his part - he should have known his comments and thoughts would be "edited" to death. NBC is not the only station guilty of "editing" things in and out to suit their own agenda - all are guilty. By the way - why was Bush not questioned more about his attack on Iraq???????? I think most of us "common" folks understand the "White House" pretty well controlls your reporting of their activity.
Am not sure why you even bothered to write about the General's book?? Stir up more controversy?
You may have shot yourself right straight in the foot.
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...General Boykin may not have remembered your conversation in it's entirety, but I feel pretty sure he remembered it correctly on the more important issues. For him to even speak with you was a mistake on his part - he should have known his comments and thoughts would be "edited" to death. NBC is not the only station guilty of "editing" things in and out to suit their own agenda - all are guilty. By the way - why was Bush not questioned more about his attack on Iraq????????...
#9 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
General Boykin remembers the entire conversation well. He simply chooses to believe that he can be a bigot, a general in military service, and not be called on it. Too bad. He violated policies and should have been called to task for it.
As for Bush not being questioned about the unprovoked invasion of Iraq, did anyone ask the tough questions? Practically every American initially supported the invasion. I think the press corp was just as guilty of supporting the invasion based on what U.S. Cheif of Staff told the U.N. as the rest of society was. After all, until it was determined by the media that the reasoning for the invasion was fallacious, i.e.: there were no WMD's, no yellow cake sale in Niger..., what was there to ask? Hindsight always affords one the benefit of clarity.
By he way, wasn't it the press who reported the White House's deceptive reasoning used by the current adminstration for that invasion?
Well, my point is that we did not take things out of context, and that we were fair. I hope that's clear from the story I wrote.
NBC news is an absolute disgrace in it's highly subjective attack on General Boykin. To attack any serviceman for relatively benign comments made in the spiritual venue of a church service is a direct attack on the U.S. Constitution, IMO. Here's a news flash for all you politically correct media-endorsed sensation-seeking news pundits: This is a nation based upon freedom of speech, thought, and religion. When that man decided to fight for our country he didn't forfeit those (and other derived) civil liberties. To invite politically motivated sanctions against an honest and dedicated soldier is absolutely despicable. Newsman Aram Roston provides less of an informational journal and more of a sensationalized gossip sound-bite designed to deceive, distort, and dumb-down it's media audience. That may be great for NBC's bottom line, but it's petty, and a disservice to everyone involved.
I really do appreciate your comments, both those that support the story and those that don't. But those that resent the story may want to reread it. In any case, I also appreciate your visiting this site and msnbc.com. Feel free to review more stories.
Aram, I do appreciate your reply. It's not that I resent the story. I resent a biased view and twisted facts. Having reread as suggested, my view is this: I will grant you Aram, that pencil-necked paper-pushers in the Pentagon will bust ANY general who EVER states ANYWHERE that Saddam or Bin Laden isn't the enemy. But nowhere do I see where the general actually made any rude comment to a Somali warlord. (Although it's fair to ASSUME that their relationship was less than cordial!) Clearly though, you are less than diplomatic in your challenge of the general's view of the Devil. God knows I've slept through enough sermons in my day, but I do recall this: A recurring theme about this Devil character. It ain't news. We can all bet the rent that journalism school didn't offer "The Devil" as a minor course of study, or even as an elective. So why does a JOURNALIST bother to bust a general over the fine print of a Christian homily? Was the Somali warlord too busy lording to be interviewed? Bin Laden Bin hiding too well to have Bin interviewed? You know Aram, just because Saddam doesn't return your phone calls from Hell doesn't mean Hell doesn't exist. THOSE are the real stories, and the interviews EVERYONE wants to see.
Aren't Generals employed to use their best sense regarding our security? Then we want to boycott them when they do. Aren't we then doing so at our own peril? To call him a bigot while vigorously defending your own bigotry is ... .
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